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A good place to live..depends on what you are looking for

I lived in St George in 2000-2002 and from 2008 to present. The city has changed a lot over that time. I have lived in Northern Utah as well as MA/NY and CA.There are some real positives about St George that make it hard to leave and for certain people these positives make St George a great option.Weather: St George has never had a day of what I consider bad weather to drive in , in 12 years. It is really as they say 350 days of sunshine. Rain is rare, maybe once a month average, and snow maybe once every 2-3 year a dusting. BUT it is over 100 almost every day from June-August so that makes it hard for spend summer outdoors as much as I would like.Property Tax: If you have lived on the East Coast like I did, propety tax is a deal. An average home runs about $1200 a year so $100 a month.Utilities : If you live in the Dixie Power area (people will direct you to this area when buying a home), power is dirt cheap, it is a co-op and among the lowest rates the nation. Most houses are all electric because of this. So an average home for all utilities including water, sewer , trash and power runs $150 a month. WARNING if you do not choose Dixie power, the rates can be 5-8 times higher.Housing: Housing prices go up and down and not with national standards. Right now (July 2018) housing is high, mainly because the new building can;t build fast enough and permits are being delayed. It is a tricky market. If you 100% plan on living here forever buy a house and relax. It is just crazy how the new building cost change month by month based on the ability to get permits. I looked at the big builder of stucco boxes 2 years ago , and I was quoted 215k to build a 2600 sq ft 4-5 bed 3 bath home in a nice neighborhood. The cost 3 months later was 265k, 7 months later was over 300k, then 3 months after that 255k, today that house is 320k to build. It just becomes difficult to sell when your neighbor bought the same house for 215k within a year of you and you paid 320k. So you would think rent and wait. This city has a sometimes a 0 vacancy rate. Over my 10 years I have been asked by more people then I can count to look for rentals. Rentals in the safe areas or good schools run way higher then buying and are scarce. Almost all rentals are controlled by property management. So expected to have good credit and $5k-6k to get into a 3 bed/2 bath rental if you can find one.You think there would be apartments. It is a college city with 12k students? Up until 2 years ago they was less then 200 dorms for 12k students! and there had not been an apartment complex built since the 1990's. For over 100k population there are 4 "regular" (meaning not based on income or age) apartment complexes. The city just got a brand new complex but it is full already at 1k for a 1 bedroom. Medical: There is one hospital and one insurance company on the exchange left , a vast majority of jobs, you do not get insurance so you are buying off the exchange. Our policy runs $2100 a month for 2 parents and 1 kid. My child gets some dental. We each have a 1k ded, which I know is good, I could have choose $1600 a month but it was $5500 ded and we do have medical needs. If you are healthly or have common issues arise, the healthcare is fine as long as you can afford the rates or get lucky with a good employer that pays. Urgent Care is hard to get. On Weekends only 1 open from Provo to Vegas with 6-8 hour waits.There is good care aimed retirees. Lots of Ortho surgeons and Cardiologists, so need a knee or have a heart attack, you are okay here.Some care is a nightmare. They built a pretty building but PLEASE do not listen to anyone or a website, check with the hospital if you have a medical need. There is currently NO rhemtatology, 1 endocrinologist , and 1 limited neurologist (he will see you once and then you are required to get care from your PCP or a NP, This is a recent change as of June 2018, our hospital has been looking for a neurologist for over 10 years and many have quit, leaving only one full time neurologist for over 400k people). I have seen way too many healthy people retire here only to have a stroke, get parkinsons, dementia , neuropathy etc and then realize there is no local care. Veterans services are limited, it is sad and upsetting to see.So what happens if you need care that is not here? If you are lucky and do not have select med (the one insurance you can buy), then sometimes Vegas is an option, 120 miles each way, but some docs in Vegas are just as overloaded and some refuse patients. Then there is SLC, 300 miles away, but in good weather 4 hours since the speed limit is 85 most of the way. There are some good docs there and they do take the insurance but there is no major hospital that will coordinate mutliple appointments so you might make 3-4 trips to get an issue resolved. Then there is Phoenix and LA. I prefer Phoenix, 425 miles and a solid 8 + hours but the hospitals will get most everything done in one trip, of course you have to make sure you have insurance to cover it or have extra money. While this is a city of young families, pedatric care is hard. If your kid is healthy and just gets checks up, colds, and maybe a broken bone or stitches, it is fine. It you need speech or OT or any sort of speciality , like my child had a seizure, there was no one to help locally. It was a 6 month wait at Primary children's to see a child that had a seizure? or go to AZ or CA and get in same day but pay out of pocket. It is also hard to have to drive so far every month for follow up care. Schools: Schools vary, but you can easily research and tell which schools areas are better. These areas change about every ten years as new subdivisions open , people want the new in neigborhood and then schools are built. Right now the desert hills/little valley/washing fields area is the place for schools. With property taxes so low, you get what you pay for. School are packed, 45 kids in a class. Teachers are good decent people working for low wages and try the best they can. I felt very safe with my kids in school. With all the politics of school shootings, this district lets teacher have guns, It was voted in years ago and at least at my kids school it was very obvious they had carefully places teachers with CC permits. The schools are very easy, it is so easy to get an A. Last year 84 kids in my child's high school class had a 4.0. My kids were so bored even in honors class, no homework, I never saw homework. The school also care about sports more then academics. There are very few academic clubs but the few they have, do very well but get no recognition. Electives are music and home ec and fluff so to get easy A's. Science totally lacks, foriegn languageis Spanish, or if you are lucky a part time teacher will teach another language. If you want a safe school, where you child can get a 4.0 and few tuition at local colleges but learn very little, it is a fine place. If you want to go to an out of state school, expect to do everything yourself, drive to Vegas to take SAT, no help from the guidance office. Socially in the good schools, if you are not Mormon, expect less close friends or birthday invites. Kid are not mean about religion (I think it is more parents), but if you are not Mormon expect not to be fully accepted by everyone, but again the non mormon kids find each other and have some friends, just not as large a circle.Adult friends: People always ask what if I am not Mormon? I am not Mormon, my husband was Mormon. My neighbors are nice but besides neighborhood block parties, never have us over. I have invited neighbors, and co-workers, a few came once, but most people stick with their church friends for major socializing. Do I feel unwelcomed. I have found certain pockets in town are more welcoming, but they are not in the good school area so I have friends I visit on the other side of town, but my direct neighborhood, people say hi, will help you bring your trash out or pick up your mail , but that is about it.Stuff to do: I am not a not a hiking , biking,camping type person. If you are this area is great for you. I enjoy museums, art class, camps for my kids, fairs, festivals, concerts and this city lacks these things. Sure there is a Utah pioneer museum but it has been the same for 20 years, Camps for kids just stop at 12, unless it is sports. My kids wanted teen camps for science, art, foriegn language, cooking...just something fun in the summer but summer is dull for kids unless you enjoy being outside in the 110 degree heat all day hiking or biking. The city has weird rules about concert and dancing. they have maybe one concert a year (there is classical music and religious concerts , Im speaking of a music concert, usually it is a medicore country star that comes). There is 1 bar, for 100k+ people & it is a dive (but people say it is friendly). So forget about breweries or clubs or any sort of night life.It is a bit sad, we bought our house at the right time and besides high health cost, have extra money but there is just little to do locally. It is grocery shop or go to a chain resturant (mom and pop type places closes within a year, rents are so high they just cant make it), go to a movie, shop at walmart or target and that is life. My kids and their friends beg for something to do, roller skate, ice skate, water park, art class, something for kids 10-18 to do and there is nothing. Of course this means teen crime and drugs/drinking are on the rise. Let no one tell you different. Arrests are not public but even the some of the good kids that have 4.0 are into drugs simply because there is just nothing to do. Internet: Rarely mention but important. CHECK before you buy. Many nice homes have little or no service. Jobs: plenty of $10 a hr jobs retail fast food , nursing aides. Then there are decent paying construction jobs but they come and go with demand. There really is no other decent wage jobs outside of medical field (even then with just one hospital RN's make 40-44k not more) So how do families afford 350-500k homes? I know many people that the husband works out of state. There are many people working 2-3 jobs. Then there are families that give big down payments (amazes me how many 18-19 year old marry and have nice new houses buy 21). City management: It is a good old boys network for sure. Most of the time it does not mean anything for my life. The city has kept hos[ital competetion out which really could benefit many. The city is run like it was 30 years ago when the population was 25k. There is also some crazy rules, like solar is not allowed in most places, 350 days of sun and no solar because it does not look pretty? The city is also zoned weird. The new suburb areas wont allow apartments, library, retail, and usually so sidewalks and lots of traffic. You ahve to go everywhere by car. It is not a place you can send a 14 year old to walk to get a loaf od bread or to return a library book. The library is horrible, so many books stolen, full of homeless people (so many homeless & little help 1/25 kids is homeless & a blind eye is turned problems denied)So if you have read this far there are good and bad of this city.If you are retired and have good health and good insurance this is probably a great place for you, great weather, low taxes and utilites, and lots of golf.If you get a good job offer here and it comes with medical benefits and you are healthy and enjoy the outdoors, this is a great place.This place is not for you if you have any sort of medical issue that is chronic or a PCP cant deal with. DO NOT let the new hospital fool you. I repeat this because I have seen so many families lose everything having to move quickly due to illness. While the cost of living is great, you have to see if living in a Landlocked city with limits is right for you. DO YOU RESEARCH, don't listen to realtors, go to schools, hospitals and explore & find out if SG works for you.
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